you know, that's not a strong suit for president obama right now and something mitt romney can really take, take obama out with. jon: ron bonjean and julie roginsky, thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: there is certainly a lot of reaction to september's jobs report. both presidential campaigns going into spin mode already. what do today's numbers really tell us about the prospects for millions of americans looking for work? our jobs panel weighs in and talks a little bit about this report and takes your questions. >>> a textbook example of a round house punch. maybe this guy felt he had nothing to lose after pleading guilty. wait until you hear how much the time his attack on his own lawyer added to his sentence jenna: the new jobs numbers out this morning as i'm sure you're aware at this point. some say pointing to really a break-through in the recovery. the unemployment rate falling below 8% for the first time in almost four years but a deeper look shows a little bit different picture. we want to show this to you. you might hear a lot about u-6 rates that measures people not fully